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Godd Till and I have a general policy of not attacking the commenters who leave their little pearls of wisdom and ignorance below the stories that we take so much joy in tearing apart, or those who have their letters answered in the various lamebags that several reporters have resorted to filling their blogs with. As easy as it would be to shred some dude who thanks Damien Cox for "being the sole voice of reason", or begins a letter to Richard Griffin with "I love your mailbag and look forward to it every week", we made the decision early on that we would only target the "professionals" in this business, and not the idiots who choose to display their ignorance for free.

Well, today I'm making an exception as I would like to publicly state that Spencer from Toronto, who called in to yell at my old friend Harry Kopyto at around 9:20 on AM 640 this morning is a total fucking idiot. Seriously, Spencer from Toronto may be the stupidest sack of shit that I have ever heard on that station, and we're talking about a number on the dial that employs Craig Brommell.

You see, Spencer from Toronto, like many of AM 640's other loyal listeners, is outraged that the Thieves, Commies and Traitors are attempting to stage a coup and unseat the Conservatives. Fine. I'm not too impressed with the NDP right now myself. But what gets Spencer's underoos twisted up in a knot is that, by entering into a coalition with the Bloc Quebecois, Jack Layton is wholeheartedly endorsing and benefiting from the murder of Piere Laporte.

"Gee Jorn, you're right," you say. "That is ridiculous. That Spencer from Toronto who called into AM 640 this morning at about 9:20 am is a total fuckwit." Well, thanks, but you don't even know the half of it. Spencer piled-on to his gross ignorance of history and politics by claiming that the Bloc Quebecois grew out of the FLQ, and that the Liberals and NDP were now working with terrorists. For realz, this dude is not only as dumb as Sarah Palin, but he stole her talking points too.

Unsurprisingly the host of the program (Mike Stafford, subbing in for the Rush Limbaugh tribute act that usually props up the mic during the morning hours on AM640) did not once mention that Spencer from Toronto is a total fucking tool, or even bother to correct his outrageously stupid insinuations. Stafford, like other right wing media, is spending a lot time these days whipping his listeners into a frenzy over the "attempted coup" in Ottawa, without really mentioning any of the facts involved in the current situation.

I can understand why conservatives are upset by recent developments, and as I mentioned earlier, I myself am not too happy with the thought of the NDP (my default political party of choice) jumping into bed with the Liberals. However, I think I have a fairly firm grasp of the issues involved: namely, Stephen Harper's determination to put partisan politics ahead of governance and refusal to compromise in the manner required of a minority government, has opened the door for the professional opportunists in the Liberal party, propped up the spineless leadership of the NDP and supported by the Bloc, to take power. This exact same scenario nearly unfolded 4 years ago, but with the position of the Liberals and Conservatives flipped.

There is a lot of "blame" to throw around, but if you listen to AM 640 you would think that Harper is the victim in this mess while the opposition parties are subverting democracy and spitting in the faces of hard-working Canadians by telling them that the concerns of the Bloc are more important than their own. This is typical of AM 640, which prides itself on being the voice of the downtrodden white straight males, oppressed by liberalism and political correctness. Yes, the most powerful group of people in this country are pissed off because...well...I'm actually not sure why, but they are pissed off.

A favourite punching bag for the hosts and callers at AM 640 is the CBC. Liberal bias, yadda, yadda, yadda. Funny though...when I've watched the Corpse this week (I never miss the At Issue panel featuring the wonderful Chantal Hebert) I've noticed that all sides of this story have been consistently represented in both the reported pieces and discussion panels. When I listen to AM 640, all I hear is Conservative talking points at top volume. When the station does offer another side to this issue, the representative is always shouted down by the hosts and the callers.

I understand that talk radio serves a purpose, and that purpose is entertainment rather than objective discussion of important issues of the day. More often than not, these stations serve as nothing more than an outlet for straight white men like that tool Spencer from Toronto to rail against the "other" for their own failure to get a job, get a house, or get it up. However, I've noticed in the last few days that there has been a ugly spike in the tone and rhetoric coming over the airwaves. People are angry about what is going on in Ottawa, and stations like AM 640 are choosing to fan the flames of ignorance and hatred rather than delve into the issues in any sort of context. I noted earlier that that halfwit moron Spencer from Toronto was using a trick straight from the Sarah Palin playbook by invoking the specter of terrorism into the coup conversation, and I think that the hate and anger spewing over the airwaves right now is creating a atmosphere like the one we saw during the US presidential campaign when the divisive rhetoric of the McCain-Palin camp resulted in cries of "terrorist" and "kill him" when Barack Obama's name was mentioned during campaign rallies. 

If the same thing is happening here, we can thank commentators like Mike Stafford for twisting facts to make people more angry and turn up the flames in an already heated situation. Hopefully most listeners are smart enough to see through this shtick and are actually getting their news from other sources. However, it only takes one total fucking idiot like Spencer from Toronto to take things too far because he thinks our democracy is endangered by terrorists. And that is kind of scary.

What does this have to do with Cox Bloc and bad sports reporting? Well, it means that I won't be listening to AM 640 anymore, so our already scant coverage of Leafs Lunch and the Bill Watters Show will dry up completely. I'll miss Coast to Coast AM and Harry Kopyto's Thursday morning blast of Trotskyite righteousness, but I can't justify being part of the listener numbers that AM 640 uses to lure advertisers. I'm out. It is all Fan 590 for me, even though Mike Hogan spent the first ten minutes of his show yesterday morning complaining about the opposition accord with all of the objectivity and reason that you would normally find in those little quips that the Toronto Sun editors stick at the end of critical letters. I'm giving the Fan a pass on this one, not because I think it is appropriate for Hogan to prattle on about his ill-informed political views, but because I don't think it is the Fan 590's policy to promote hatred and division based on skewed facts and political ideology. No, that is AM 640's niche.        

26 Comments

LeafFanInVan said:

Great post. It is getting ugly out there, I try to avoid reading the comments left on online news sites regarding this whole issue. Is it just me or has the country hit new levels of partisanship?

While I'm not keen on the whole coalition idea either (having the govt depend on Bloc support makes me queasy) it's pretty clear that Harper et al is just not mature enough to govern, especially during a crisis.

And as for the fools crying "coup", last I checked we elect MPs who can form a government any way their party decides. I'm no political lawyer but this all seems above-board to me. It's a shame it came to it, but it should be a lesson to not act like a total jerkwad to people you should be working with.

Plus who knows, maybe Dion will really surprise us!

Chris from America said:

I love your blog and look forward to it every week.

The far-right radio & sports marriage has become the norm in the U.S. as well, like WEEI in Boston that hosts Limbaugh and Hannity along with their sports-gossip formula (whereby Belichick and Schilling are their Britney and Paris).

Listening to CBC Radio's "talk back" en route to work this morning I heard similar comments about how Canada will cease to exist as a nation and that the fifth horse of the apocalypse has now arrived etc etc, and yes it reminded me of the permanent conservative hysteria(tm) that dominates American radio, for the most part. As shown by Limbaugh et al, there's a LOT of money in feigned outrage, its become an assured way to reign in the white-middle-aged-male audience, who see themselves as Conrad Black's mini-mes, always getting screwed over by "the man", or "wo-man", and of course them minorities.

Given that a majority of Canadians did not vote for the Conservative party, why is there such an outrage at this coalition? If anyone its the people who voted for the NDP and Bloc who are seeing their parties shape-shift and compromise. Perhaps this is the thorn in the conservatives side, seeing odd bedfellows unite to defeat a common enemy. Sounds like democracy to me.

Dick said:

"Spencer From Toronto" has a nice ring to it...New band name perhaps?

Kim Jorn said:

"...it should be a lesson to not act like a total jerkwad to people you should be working with."

Good advice LFIV, which more people should take on board (Sean Avery, I'm looking in your direction).

I know Vancouver isn't quite the wild blue west, but what has the reaction been like out there? We're being told in Ontario that we've lost the west forever now.

Kim Jorn said:

Hey Chris,

You are the sole voice of reason in this town...

I didn't know that WEEI wasn't all sports. Is there another sports station in Boston?

What do you think of the balding midget's new deal? Not a bad price for an MVP/little hitting machine.

I'll be in town next week. We should go for a drink.

D²an D¹aoust said:

Thank you for that Mr. Jorn.

What I don't understand is why people feel the need to publicly out their own idiocy, such as the Spencers in Toronto of this world. Is the currency of our modern education system that undervalued that fear and scorn has replaced rational discourse, that what we do not know and fear tomorrow has more power over what we may know today? Which also begs another question: Do some people quietly pine for the Canada of 1959?

I've never been a fan of the soul-eating android and W. ass polisher that is the current PM, so I welcome the coalition though with some reservations of course. What I find rather funny is that conservative critics are quick to castigate the Liberals for buying a tray of jello shots for the Bloc in order to join the coalition while Conservatives tried to win their favour a few years back with a 24 of labatt 50 in order to try and bring down the Liberal government. Such glorious hypocrisy.

And thank you Chris from America. Your last paragraph pretty much summed up how I feel.



Bllan Aester said:

While the Liberals were trying to fan the flames of fear in 2004 that the Conservatives were just Republican Lite I thought: naw, we're all Canadians right? This kind of shit doesn't fly right?

Wrong. It has become increasingly clear that they do in fact play from the same playbook. After the ridiculousness of the entire McCain campaign and the attendant media coverage (oh, McCain and Palin are calling Obama a terrorist? Well, it's okay because Obama once ran a commercial that kind of, sort of but not really mischaracterized a McCain talking point. You see, when he said he wanted to get rid of the Department of Education he was just being maverick-y and Obama didn't mention that in his commercial) and the incredible fact that the conservatives not only taped a Lib/NDP caucus and have started a media blitz designed only to lie, and there is no other word for the baloney the scum are peddling, to Canadians about what is happening.

Read that sentence again. They are organizing commercials, radio ads, and appearances by MPs to lie to Canadians about the reality of what is happening in the hopes that they are too uninformed or uneducated of the truth.

That is the conservative playbook. That is what conservatives have voted for and that's why I hate them with every fibre of my being throughout North America.

LeafFanInVan said:

KJ: Reaction in BC seems rather mixed. In Vancouver proper people are cautiously optimistic I would say, especially people in NDP ridings whose MPs have a shot at a cabinet post (Libby Davies especially).

I don't know what the people in the sticks are feeling but I imagine there is plans afoot in the Fraser Valley to secede from the country right this second.

LeafFanInVan said:

Also - I found it pretty ridiculous how much airtime was given over to eulogizing the late Ted Rogers yesterday. Both Sportsnet and Global TV did lengthy retrospectives on him right from the leadoff of their news programs. I know he owned half of the media in the country, but please. Outside of his immediate family does anyone really care?

Kim Jorn said:

LFIV: Fan 590 spent a lot of time discussing Ted Rogers yesterday as well. I understand the Fan and Sportsnet, but it is interesting that Global led with his death as well. Media do love to cover their own.

PPP: I just started reading "The Greatest Story Ever Sold" by Frank Rich which documents how the Bushies perfected that playbook you were talking about after 9-11. So far it is a pretty good (but depressing) read.

LeafFanInVan said:

The local AM news (rogers-owned) has a poll up "Do you support the Conservative or Coalition gov't" and the Conservatives are leading at 71% (!)

http://www.news1130.com/poll/

News 1130 would definitely trend more conservative, they play some of the opinions of people who call in to leave a message and it makes me wonder how wacky the ones were that they DIDN'T play.

mike from toronto in boston said:

WEEI is all-sports but the morning show guys routinely talk politics. One of the hosts is quite obviously a huge racist and homophobe, and both are staunchly conservative on most social issues. The parent company owns several stations along the dial which host conservative talk shows as well.

There are three AM all-sports radio stations broadcasting in Boston, and more if you include the ones which come in from the rest of New England and New York. It's sports talk mecca here. Unfortunately most of it centres on who should be the 4th starter for the Pawsox.

Kim Jorn said:

The morning show host on WEEI...is that the one who called gays "fruits" when he was interviewing Mike Timlin? And then Timlin went off about the immorality of homosexuality? Mmm, talk radio.

LeafFanInVan said:

Had an interesting discussion on this at lunch with co-workers.. They're more on the side of the Conservatives and feel it's nothing more than a power grab on behalf of Dion and Layton. They're of the mind that, yes, the Conservatives were total jerkwads but that they pulled back when the opposition protested. They'd rather see another election than coalition rule..

Interesting side note was how I was comparing Joe Clark favourably to Harper, they were quick to attempt to paint Clark with the "he was a jerk too just like harper!" even though they lean towards the conservatives.. I don't get that one.. Joe Clark had (and gave) much respect even among opponents, whereas Harper comes off as a real bully.

I miss Joe.. But perhaps it is just rose coloured glasses in effect.

Waaah! I turned on the radio and heard a right wing opinion. WAAAH I can't listen to Leafs Lunch any more WAAAH!

Geez get a grip you guys, sorry the whole world is not government subsidized left wing pap. A one billion dollar taxpayer funded TV station not enough for ya? The entire entertainment/music industry? Most newspapers?

What's next? Are you going to start calling for a "fairness" doctrine for Canada?

Kim Jorn said:

Geez Meatriarchy...when you combine my love of talk radio and the Toronto Sun with my family and my hometown, trust me, I'm exposed to a great deal of right wing opinion that I never bother to blog about. If you want to claim Spencer from Toronto and his idiotic worldview as "right wing", you're welcome to it...but it wasn't so much the conservativism of AM640 and Spencer from Toronto that bothered me as it was the stupidity.

I guess you weren't around when I attacked David Suzuki in a post?

BWHAHAHAHA Sorry we are offended by people peddling lies on what is supposed to pass as a news show without the host correcting blatant lies.

Ah the vast left-wing conspiracy eh? Come on. If the media actually did a good job of combatting the lies then there might be a cause to complain but since they let so much slide just be grateful.

Kim: I am reading Rich's book The Wrecking Crew which is also a great read.

p.s. I hate the sin not the sinner ;)

Jorn I was around and it was a good post. You had almost had me fooled into thinking you might be joining the VRWC on that one.

Remember how you said that Suzuki thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with him is in the tank for big oil and the auto industry?

Well your much loved "coalition" pretty much believes that as well. That line of idiocy is straight out of the NDP playbook (exept substitue Auto sector with corporations in general) and the Bloq are basically the NDP with a nationalist streak.

So get ready for lots of that under the new coalition utopia.

Can't wait till they start bailing out the auto-sector before the US throws them one red cent. If Obama and company do the right thing and actually let one or more of the Big 3 go into Chapter 11 that will make for a pretty interesting waste of money.

I was actually thinking that for the first time in Canadian history we would be able to come through an economic downturn because we had for the first time an ECONOMIST as PM instead of some clueless constitutional lawyer (see the 70's kiddies for Trudeau's asinine attempts to control wages and prices).

But now when the PM actually asks the political parties to make sacrifices first (by cutting off the taxpayer trough) they bring down the government for it. And people are applauding them because Harper was "mean".
WAAAH Steve Harper is a meanie WAAAH he actually knows how economics works WAAH! He doesn't shovel money into failing industries fast enough WAAAH He hasn't thrown trillions into the banking sector.

Oh wait our mortgage market wasn't based on two government run Democratic boondoggles, gee how interesting.

Godd Till said:

You know, it's interesting that Harper knows how economics work, considering his initial advice was roundly rejected by most major economists in Canada.

This would be the first time in Canadian history we survived an economic downturn? I must have missed the country being broken into pieces after the downturns of the 1880s, after WWI, the Great Depression, the late 1950s, the early 1970s, the early 1980s, and the early 1990s.

I won't speak for Jorn, but I have no enthusiasm for the coalition, and even less for Steven Harper. He faced a challenge and chose not to lead. He chose divide and attempt to game the system to secure advantages for the Conservatives.

When he faced a challenge, he chose doing what's best for his party ahead of what's best for his country. An epic fail in anyone's book.

I'm not going to even comment on your Limbaugh-lite attempt to portray Canada as some kind of socialist echo chamber keeping down conservative Canadians who managed to overcome their oppression to control the House, most provincial governments, and a giant chunk of the national media. You're on your own with that one.

Varry Galk said:

Thomas Frank's "The Wrecking Crew" is indeed a fantastic read. And it shows precisely that the new conservatism predates McCain-Palin by far -- "defund the left" was hatched when Abramoff and Norquist were mere college pups. Usually, in the US, this involves gutting the resources or power of left-supporting institutions (unions, etc.) rather than a ham-handed attempt to literally grab the NDP piggy bank and shake out all the change.

Oh, and Meatriarchy, I *will* comment on your Limbaugh-liteness. Fact is, no matter how shrill the National Post, Montreal Gazette, elements at the Globe and CBC, the entire national Sun franchise and virtually all non-CBC talk radio get...the Conservatives simply don't have (at this moment in time) enough votes, seats, integrity, brains or balls to survive a confidence vote. But thank you for handing Quebec to the PQ. That's a lovely parting gift.

Katshockey said:

Great post, here...

If you're looking for a really good idea as to why everything happens in this world, a really good, eye-opening, read is 'The Creature from Jekyll Island' by Edward Griffin.

http://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/0912986212

This book changed my life. It changed the way everything in this world is perceived. It will definitely open your eyes to the bogus 'bailouts' orchestrated lately in the US banking industry, as well as the car manufacturers.

Did you know disasters increase GDP? That includes, oil spills, plane crashes and natural disasters. It's formulated into the equation. So does work coming out of prisons. Wasn't there something recent about prison labour?

This is a great one too:

http://www.amazon.com/Alternatives-Economic-Globalization-John-Cavanagh/dp/1576752046/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228425833&sr=1-2

And then if you haven't already committed to slit your wrist through the depression that grows with increased knowledge (ignorance is bliss), read Joseph Stiglitz's book.

http://www.amazon.com/Globalization-Its-Discontents-Joseph-Stiglitz/dp/0393324397/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228425908&sr=1-1

"Oh wait our mortgage market wasn't based on two government run Democratic boondoggles, gee how interesting."

hahaha right out of the playbook! Those damn minorities got houses!

I should have a checklist of plays and tick them off as you go.

"But now when the PM actually asks the political parties to make sacrifices first (by cutting off the taxpayer trough) they bring down the government for it."

I can see why conservatives would hate any move to keep money out of politics. Sacrifices? Just one more political move by Harper. What miniscule percentage of 1% would cutting out the subsidy save? And how long until the rules were changed to allow more US style 'independent' groups to funnel money into elections to spread conservative lies?

Bim Jenning said:

You know, this is the perfect venue for this discussion. I've noticed most prominently in the US, but increasingly in Canada, what I'd call the "sportification" of politics. What I mean by that is this:
I'm a Leafs fan. Always have been, always will be. It doesn't matter how crappy the Leafs are, or how good the Senators are, or how smart the Wings draft, I can't conceive of a situation where I'd change allegiances. And in sports, that's fine - admirable, even. The conversation "Your team sucks!" "No, YOUR team sucks!" is perfectly acceptable discourse.

But that's not how you should approach politics. Bad ideas presented by a finance minister hurt the whole country. Policies can be objectively good or bad, and should be treated as such for the benefit of everyone. But what we're seeing in Canada now more than ever before is people like Meatriarchy and talk-radio goons seeing "their team" in trouble, and willing to do anything - lie, cheat, spread fear and hate - to support their team rather than have a serious conversation about the issues involved. And both sides are guilty of this attitude, but it can't be just a coincidence that the shrillest harpies and the lyingest liars are invariably on the right, can it?
And of course all the lies and shrillness makes no sense, which angers the left, and reinforces the left's perception of the right as a uniform bunch of shrill liars. Like the Senators.

So what we get are voters who treat politics like a sport. "My dad voted Conservative, I'm a Conservative voter, I always will be", and election night is like watching the big game. "How'd our team do? Did we win or lose?" Which justifies lying and cheating to get the party you support elected, even though that party might have objectively worse policies that will be bad for you and for the country.

In conclusion: what's wrong with you people?!?!

Croller Tanston said:

OH HAI GUYS DID YOU HEAR THAT THE LEAFS ARE GOING TO GET LAST YEAR'S CUP FROM THE WINGS? THEY GOT TOGETHER WITH THE HABS AND SENATORS AND THEY HAVE MORE POINTS SO BETTMAN IS GIVING THEM THE CUP

D²an D¹aoust said:

Hey Croller Tanston!

Maybe those triple lutzs have scrambled the way your brain works.

The world of Sports is a Darwinian pursuit designed to crown one champion. The world of democratic politics is a pursuit designed to address, in a vague way, 'what is the best way to secure and administer the common good'. There is a big difference between how you go about securing a goal - both work in a 'first to the finish line' fashion - and what you do once that goal is secured. An NHL team parades the cup with drunken abandon while a Political party tries to do what they think is best for a broad variety of interests.

Maybe you didn't realize that. Oh and writing in caps doesn't make an argument more forceful, it does however make it more humorous. It did make me laugh a little.

barrysbin said:

So bang on about Fox news AM 640.

I caught Rush Limbaugh lite himself last week Addler, just spewing contempt and spinning madly to paint this as a separatists orgasm.

Not once was it mentioned that Harper has done more for the separtists cause than anyone and had Harper not stuck his nose into the PQ provinces youth detention program, the block likely would have far fewer seats today.

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